ERIC D BROWN

Trail is open to just past Waypoint 11. About a hundred yards past that, the snow is just impassable. Multiple vehicles stuck trying to traverse it. The rest of the road is very passable and a nice pleasant drive.

Road is open with a bit of snow/ice. Not bad at all and easily driveable but the ice gets slippery once the sun goes down so be careful.

The top of Mammoth is drifted over as of Nov 8 2022. Not terribly bad and would be easy to bash through with a couple high clearance vehicles but not something you'd want to try on your own.

Something has happened to Bunce. it is much rockier than normal with more obstacles in the first part than it used to have. I'd say this is moved up to a 3 at least in the first 2 miles or so, turned around right past the end of 105 due to some ice/snow.

I know this trail hasn't been updated to match the new system, but the "3" rating is way too low. This is easily a 5 rating. Lots of large boulders to navigate/drive over after crossing the creek and navigating through the dead-fall area. Anyone entering this trail thinking it's an easy drive is going to be in for a rude awakening. There aren't any "optional" routes or bypasses. That said, if you go in knowing it's a 5, you'll enjoy it.

Great loop in the mountains. I would consider the rating to be a but high normally. There's no obstacles but the shelf roads can get tricky, especially when wet. I drove it in the rain/snow/fog and wouldn't want to see inexperienced folks heading up toward Paradise Divide when wet. That said, when dry, I'd say this is a 2 (and perhaps even a 1 but a few narrow shelf road sections could bump it up).